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		<title>Comment on Fox: Ellen DeGeneres Will FINALLY Eradicate Traditional Families! by Sheena</title>
		<link>http://uncommontary.com/2012/02/10/fox-ellen-degeneres-will-finally-eradicate-traditional-families/#comment-482</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Biblical Literalism At It&#8217;s Finest by ooa revo</title>
		<link>http://uncommontary.com/2012/01/31/biblical-literalism-at-its-finest/#comment-468</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Lie Back And Enjoy It? Rick Santorum On Abortion In Cases Of Rape: &#8216;Make The Best Out Of A Bad Situation&#8217; by NEWS OF THE DAY &#8211; RICK SANTORUM &#8211; SENATOR ASSHOLE &#171; THE WORD WARRIOR Bonju Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NEWS OF THE DAY &#8211; RICK SANTORUM &#8211; SENATOR ASSHOLE &#171; THE WORD WARRIOR Bonju Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Lie Back And Enjoy It? Rick Santorum On Abortion In Cases Of Rape: &#8216;Make The Best Out Of A Bad Situation&#8217; by MissLauraC</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an unbelievable, thundering arsehole.  As an unknowledgable Brit on most things American, just how likely is he to become next president?  Please don&#039;t allow this extra-terrestrial approximation of a human being be president!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an unbelievable, thundering arsehole.  As an unknowledgable Brit on most things American, just how likely is he to become next president?  Please don&#8217;t allow this extra-terrestrial approximation of a human being be president!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Dialogue Concerning Religion, Naturally by John McAndrew</title>
		<link>http://uncommontary.com/2012/01/13/a-dialogue-concerning-religion-naturally/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McAndrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 08:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jane, I always appreciate knowing that you take the time to read your old backslidden friend&#039;s writing. Thanks for commenting, too.

Jaroslav Pelikan says (this is an over-simplification, but it&#039;s been a couple decades since I read him) that every generation/culture has used Jesus as a seal of approval for the powers that be. At least since Constantine married church and state. The largest part of my response in this post was giving credit to those Christians who, like Bonhoeffer, stand ready to oppose the status quo, as opposed to those who think God is a magic lantern or ring of power. I&#039;d say that believers who are like Bonhoeffer are true believers, so I&#039;m not sure what you mean by my caricature of true believers. If you mean the meddling fundamentalists who are Talibanesque, I hold them in derision and think they are dangerous. If you mean those who content themselves with doctrinal disputes and trying to evangelize/clone new believers: while they are not the true, Bonhoeffer-like believers, they are generally decent people who just believe something I find strange or silly. They neither are the heroes, like Bonhoeffer, nor the villains like Robertson, Falwell, Haggard, et al. 

As for my portrayal of God, I think it&#039;s true to the story I learned as a fundamentalist/evangelical and, when I was younger, as a Catholic. I would love to see a good novelist write a story where the main character behaves toward people like the God of the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament does. Petulant, grudge-bearing, manipulative – and a filicide to boot. Then I&#039;d like to see this writer try to convince their readers that this character is a model whom we should all try to emulate. For the life of me, I can&#039;t understand how I ever was able to read the story without gagging on the idea that the being portrayed therein is admirable, much less worthy of worship. One can, of course, judiciously edit the book and remove references to the more egregious acts or demands of this petty, vengeful deity, and be left with someone just and loving, graceful and forgiving, as you wish. But as it stands, he rivals the gods of the Greek and Roman pantheons for showing all the worst traits of human nature in emphatic fashion. Not only would I not worship such a being; not only would I not befriend him; if I saw him walking toward me in a dark alley, I&#039;d run like hell.

There may be a god of some kind. There are lots of things for which I am grateful, and it would be cool to be grateful to someone. But unnecessary. Ultimately, I don&#039;t care about the existence of a god any more than I care about the existence of life on other planets: both are matters of casual curiosity, unworthy to be the starting point of a discussion, much less a relationship, much less a power relationship, with another human being. Anyone can believe whatever they want about the subject. It doesn&#039;t matter to me, unless they make it the goal of every conversation with me, or try to insist that I must also believe it or, worse, behave in accordance with their beliefs. So long as those boundaries are not crossed, one can believe in a Flying Spaghetti Monster, that we are descended from aliens, that Jesus died and came to America to bring believers magic underwear, that God had a right to cause pain and suffering to people for millennia because their ancestors ate fruit from his favorite tree, or that taping positive words on a bottle of water will infuse it – and the drinker – with those positive qualities, and I will do my best to keep a straight face when they discuss it. What do I know: I&#039;m an agnostic. The craziest stuff in the world may turn out to be true, and 42 may be the answer to everything. I&#039;ll be surprised if, when I get to death, it turns out that there is a second act and death is a mere intermission. But I&#039;m not holding my breath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, I always appreciate knowing that you take the time to read your old backslidden friend&#8217;s writing. Thanks for commenting, too.</p>
<p>Jaroslav Pelikan says (this is an over-simplification, but it&#8217;s been a couple decades since I read him) that every generation/culture has used Jesus as a seal of approval for the powers that be. At least since Constantine married church and state. The largest part of my response in this post was giving credit to those Christians who, like Bonhoeffer, stand ready to oppose the status quo, as opposed to those who think God is a magic lantern or ring of power. I&#8217;d say that believers who are like Bonhoeffer are true believers, so I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by my caricature of true believers. If you mean the meddling fundamentalists who are Talibanesque, I hold them in derision and think they are dangerous. If you mean those who content themselves with doctrinal disputes and trying to evangelize/clone new believers: while they are not the true, Bonhoeffer-like believers, they are generally decent people who just believe something I find strange or silly. They neither are the heroes, like Bonhoeffer, nor the villains like Robertson, Falwell, Haggard, et al. </p>
<p>As for my portrayal of God, I think it&#8217;s true to the story I learned as a fundamentalist/evangelical and, when I was younger, as a Catholic. I would love to see a good novelist write a story where the main character behaves toward people like the God of the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament does. Petulant, grudge-bearing, manipulative – and a filicide to boot. Then I&#8217;d like to see this writer try to convince their readers that this character is a model whom we should all try to emulate. For the life of me, I can&#8217;t understand how I ever was able to read the story without gagging on the idea that the being portrayed therein is admirable, much less worthy of worship. One can, of course, judiciously edit the book and remove references to the more egregious acts or demands of this petty, vengeful deity, and be left with someone just and loving, graceful and forgiving, as you wish. But as it stands, he rivals the gods of the Greek and Roman pantheons for showing all the worst traits of human nature in emphatic fashion. Not only would I not worship such a being; not only would I not befriend him; if I saw him walking toward me in a dark alley, I&#8217;d run like hell.</p>
<p>There may be a god of some kind. There are lots of things for which I am grateful, and it would be cool to be grateful to someone. But unnecessary. Ultimately, I don&#8217;t care about the existence of a god any more than I care about the existence of life on other planets: both are matters of casual curiosity, unworthy to be the starting point of a discussion, much less a relationship, much less a power relationship, with another human being. Anyone can believe whatever they want about the subject. It doesn&#8217;t matter to me, unless they make it the goal of every conversation with me, or try to insist that I must also believe it or, worse, behave in accordance with their beliefs. So long as those boundaries are not crossed, one can believe in a Flying Spaghetti Monster, that we are descended from aliens, that Jesus died and came to America to bring believers magic underwear, that God had a right to cause pain and suffering to people for millennia because their ancestors ate fruit from his favorite tree, or that taping positive words on a bottle of water will infuse it – and the drinker – with those positive qualities, and I will do my best to keep a straight face when they discuss it. What do I know: I&#8217;m an agnostic. The craziest stuff in the world may turn out to be true, and 42 may be the answer to everything. I&#8217;ll be surprised if, when I get to death, it turns out that there is a second act and death is a mere intermission. But I&#8217;m not holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Dialogue Concerning Religion, Naturally by Jane Bahls</title>
		<link>http://uncommontary.com/2012/01/13/a-dialogue-concerning-religion-naturally/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Bahls]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The main thing that bugs me about your post concerns your caricature of God. There are of course many images of God contained in the Bible, written as it was by ancient near eastern people who were shaped by their own cultures. And some of.the stories of what these people believed God was calling them to do continue to trouble me. Still, the image most prevalent is a god whose very nature is love. A God of grace and forgiveness. I see God and people through the eyes of Jesus, whose words and actions are as radical and counter cultural now as they were in his day. You have to like the guy--he bung out with all the wrong people and]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main thing that bugs me about your post concerns your caricature of God. There are of course many images of God contained in the Bible, written as it was by ancient near eastern people who were shaped by their own cultures. And some of.the stories of what these people believed God was calling them to do continue to trouble me. Still, the image most prevalent is a god whose very nature is love. A God of grace and forgiveness. I see God and people through the eyes of Jesus, whose words and actions are as radical and counter cultural now as they were in his day. You have to like the guy&#8211;he bung out with all the wrong people and</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Dialogue Concerning Religion, Naturally by Jane Bahls</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Bahls]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, John, I&#039;m not sure where to begin. I&#039;m glad you recognize that there are plenty of Christians who show up for others. And I agree that too many have gotten away from the cost of discipleship, but I&#039;ve seen so many others who put their faith into action in transformative ways. I don&#039;t recognize myself in your caricatures of true believers, nor do I see most of the Christians I know. Yes, there are some, too many, who are obsessed with dogma. But I do believe the vast majority are living their imperfect lives in humility and gratitude and serving God by helping others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, John, I&#8217;m not sure where to begin. I&#8217;m glad you recognize that there are plenty of Christians who show up for others. And I agree that too many have gotten away from the cost of discipleship, but I&#8217;ve seen so many others who put their faith into action in transformative ways. I don&#8217;t recognize myself in your caricatures of true believers, nor do I see most of the Christians I know. Yes, there are some, too many, who are obsessed with dogma. But I do believe the vast majority are living their imperfect lives in humility and gratitude and serving God by helping others.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Land of Opportunity by shardsofchina</title>
		<link>http://uncommontary.com/2012/01/09/land-of-opportunity/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shardsofchina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought Jonathan Levine&#039;s article was hugely misleading for the vast majority of would-be workers in China, he&#039;s got a teaching job at a Tier 1 institution in a Tier 1 city and he&#039;ll be earning around $40,000 USD a year, which for China is great going.

Most Westerners will be teaching in Tier 3 institutions if they are lucky and earning $10,000 - $15,000 a year in the back end of beyond with no home comforts to call on, no medical care, and not much else going on.

Going to China in a decent job is whole heck of a lot different from just rocking up and teaching English, and Levine failed to make that clear in his piece.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Jonathan Levine&#8217;s article was hugely misleading for the vast majority of would-be workers in China, he&#8217;s got a teaching job at a Tier 1 institution in a Tier 1 city and he&#8217;ll be earning around $40,000 USD a year, which for China is great going.</p>
<p>Most Westerners will be teaching in Tier 3 institutions if they are lucky and earning $10,000 &#8211; $15,000 a year in the back end of beyond with no home comforts to call on, no medical care, and not much else going on.</p>
<p>Going to China in a decent job is whole heck of a lot different from just rocking up and teaching English, and Levine failed to make that clear in his piece.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another Reason Our Schools Are Failing by joeynavarrete</title>
		<link>http://uncommontary.com/2012/01/09/another-reason-our-schools-are-failing/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joeynavarrete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an &quot;international student&quot; in an american college, what shocked me the most about US education specially in the high school level, is that kids tend to graduate without &quot;general culture,&quot; and I find it quite shocking coming from people living in a &quot;first world country&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an &#8220;international student&#8221; in an american college, what shocked me the most about US education specially in the high school level, is that kids tend to graduate without &#8220;general culture,&#8221; and I find it quite shocking coming from people living in a &#8220;first world country&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo&#8221;: See The Original by The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo &#8211; 2011 &#124; Bill Chance</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo &#8211; 2011 &#124; Bill Chance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 06:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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